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	<title>Comments on: What if Skyrim, COD or Battlefield Cost $110&#8230;For The Standard Version?</title>
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		<title>By: Ohron</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ohron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 02:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As long as people are dumb enough to blindly buy, and there are PLENTY of them out there, the companies will gladly sell. Look at Force Unleashed 2, in my experience the biggest rip off of a game in my knowledge and yet people are still buying it when they can rent it for $1 and beat it in 4 hours. They are buying year WoW subscriptions then quiting a month later to play SWTOR. I don&#039;t not what to be more worried of, the companies, or the gamers. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as people are dumb enough to blindly buy, and there are PLENTY of them out there, the companies will gladly sell. Look at Force Unleashed 2, in my experience the biggest rip off of a game in my knowledge and yet people are still buying it when they can rent it for $1 and beat it in 4 hours. They are buying year WoW subscriptions then quiting a month later to play SWTOR. I don&#8217;t not what to be more worried of, the companies, or the gamers. </p>
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		<title>By: Darryl Holmes</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Darryl Holmes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 22:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s a nice a sentiment, but it won&#039;t be followed by the gaming masses. Sadly people are idiots...
They&#039;ll continue to pay over twice the price for a coffee at Starbucks/Costa than the coffee shop across the street, just because it&#039;s &quot;sophisticated&quot; to drink at those places.
They&#039;ll continue to pay ridiculous fees for services that should be free, just because they don&#039;t realise/have forgotten it used to be, and should of always been, free.
They&#039;ll continue to buy piss-poor products and praise them highly, just because their community says that they should.
People are becoming more and more mindless, forgetting that we are the majority and the majority will always have the loudest voice... that is, if we ever stop listening to the few and begin to use it to our benefit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a nice a sentiment, but it won&#8217;t be followed by the gaming masses. Sadly people are idiots&#8230;<br />
They&#8217;ll continue to pay over twice the price for a coffee at Starbucks/Costa than the coffee shop across the street, just because it&#8217;s &#8220;sophisticated&#8221; to drink at those places.<br />
They&#8217;ll continue to pay ridiculous fees for services that should be free, just because they don&#8217;t realise/have forgotten it used to be, and should of always been, free.<br />
They&#8217;ll continue to buy piss-poor products and praise them highly, just because their community says that they should.<br />
People are becoming more and more mindless, forgetting that we are the majority and the majority will always have the loudest voice&#8230; that is, if we ever stop listening to the few and begin to use it to our benefit.</p>
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		<title>By: G2080</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[G2080]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 18:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lol some of you guys are morons sometimes. Well actually I don&#039;t like what the COD makers are doing but, a lot of you still suck it up and either pay, or whine about not being able to play. There&#039;s so many other games that you can play with your friends, on the couch or over online.

Me personally, I have access to COD 3,4,5,6,7, and the new COD 8 on the pc. There&#039;s this private server client that offers servers for many different pirated games so people can finally play online. Now some servers condone cheating, but it&#039;s mostly like being able to move while you&#039;re crawling in Left 4 Dead-the servers there also allow up to 24 people to play instead of 4!!

Moving on to Call of Duty, there are hundreds of people who play on this server in their client, it&#039;s one of the most popular servers besides Warcraft, Command And Conquer, Left 4 Dead, some Ubisoft games, Battlefield and Age of Empires. There&#039;s many more besides the ones I listed. But I get to play a more fun server, with all the maps they&#039;ve ever made for FREE added to the server, not paying anything. Pirates are the best. I only pirate games that don&#039;t deserve to be bought in full-I&#039;m never paying Infinity Wankers due to their crappy service, so I can enjoy FREE co-op online with HUNDREDS of people who can add their own maps and things like that to the server!! Best deal ever.

Yet console fanboys suck it all up and pay 20$ for their maps and pay monthly subscriptions for a shooter! Oh did I mention this private server client offers Counterstrike? One of the best online PC FPS.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol some of you guys are morons sometimes. Well actually I don&#8217;t like what the COD makers are doing but, a lot of you still suck it up and either pay, or whine about not being able to play. There&#8217;s so many other games that you can play with your friends, on the couch or over online.</p>
<p>Me personally, I have access to COD 3,4,5,6,7, and the new COD 8 on the pc. There&#8217;s this private server client that offers servers for many different pirated games so people can finally play online. Now some servers condone cheating, but it&#8217;s mostly like being able to move while you&#8217;re crawling in Left 4 Dead-the servers there also allow up to 24 people to play instead of 4!!</p>
<p>Moving on to Call of Duty, there are hundreds of people who play on this server in their client, it&#8217;s one of the most popular servers besides Warcraft, Command And Conquer, Left 4 Dead, some Ubisoft games, Battlefield and Age of Empires. There&#8217;s many more besides the ones I listed. But I get to play a more fun server, with all the maps they&#8217;ve ever made for FREE added to the server, not paying anything. Pirates are the best. I only pirate games that don&#8217;t deserve to be bought in full-I&#8217;m never paying Infinity Wankers due to their crappy service, so I can enjoy FREE co-op online with HUNDREDS of people who can add their own maps and things like that to the server!! Best deal ever.</p>
<p>Yet console fanboys suck it all up and pay 20$ for their maps and pay monthly subscriptions for a shooter! Oh did I mention this private server client offers Counterstrike? One of the best online PC FPS.</p>
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		<title>By: Ironpoop</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ironpoop]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 16:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hope they do it. That way their sorry asses can go bankrupt over their own stupidity. Because nobody but the dumbest of the dumbest will buy their games.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope they do it. That way their sorry asses can go bankrupt over their own stupidity. Because nobody but the dumbest of the dumbest will buy their games.</p>
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		<title>By: James Lenoir</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Lenoir]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 15:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Zach Doukas is correct. Democracy and Capitalism are not the same. A socialist state can be just as democratic as a similarly democratic state that runs along freemarket principles. The major difference is the amount of control the state exerts on the economy. 


Similarly, you could even theoretically run capitalism under a non-democratic autocratic system, provided ownership, wealth and profits are allowed to be generated by the populace. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zach Doukas is correct. Democracy and Capitalism are not the same. A socialist state can be just as democratic as a similarly democratic state that runs along freemarket principles. The major difference is the amount of control the state exerts on the economy. </p>
<p>Similarly, you could even theoretically run capitalism under a non-democratic autocratic system, provided ownership, wealth and profits are allowed to be generated by the populace. </p>
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		<title>By: Random_Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Random_Anon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 00:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, I already boycott companies that pull stupid shit, and I don&#039;t pay subscriptions to play the game I already paid for. If they try implementing this on anything I was interested in, I&#039;ll just go back and play games that I haven&#039;t finished yet, or that I really enjoyed. There will be another game that isn&#039;t influence by these f*cking morons, which I will happily support just to stick it to these guys.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I already boycott companies that pull stupid shit, and I don&#8217;t pay subscriptions to play the game I already paid for. If they try implementing this on anything I was interested in, I&#8217;ll just go back and play games that I haven&#8217;t finished yet, or that I really enjoyed. There will be another game that isn&#8217;t influence by these f*cking morons, which I will happily support just to stick it to these guys.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew L.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthew L.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 00:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I will never pay a subscription for a regular game. MMOs sure, but that&#039;s different. If they start charging subscriptions, I will either find other ways of acquiring the game or just not play any more games. They won&#039;t get my money.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will never pay a subscription for a regular game. MMOs sure, but that&#8217;s different. If they start charging subscriptions, I will either find other ways of acquiring the game or just not play any more games. They won&#8217;t get my money.</p>
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		<title>By: FleshEatingZipper</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FleshEatingZipper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 16:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with this post 100%.

I game on both PC and console and have been a gamer since the very early 80&#039;s when I found an intellivision under the Christmas tree and fell in love with video games.  Back then there was no such thing as DLC. Through the 90&#039;s and in to the new millennium, it didn&#039;t exist either.

Only with the &quot;next gen&quot; consoles did this begin. Companies started pushing out DLC for free, to test the waters and people were ok with it.  Then they tried it at low prices and people complained but they still paid.  Then they raised the prices and people complained a little more but they still paid.

They are using a psychological tactic.  Introduce the changes slowly so the people don&#039;t flip out.  Make it seem like very little is changing by making the change gradual and in small increments.  Does anyone think these guys haven&#039;t spent MILLIONS doing research, having studies done, running surveys and talking to experts in marketing strategies? Of course they have.  We are paying for them to make war against our bank accounts and they will continue to do this until we tell them NO.

Tell your friends.  Tell your enemies.  Tell your family.  Talk to people at the game store about this.  Tell every gamer you know or meet that it is time to stop this crap from happening to us.

Once again I GUARANTEE that the first time a big title bombs on launch because the gamers refuse to be swindled, the industry will slam on the breaks, back up and take a long hard look at what they&#039;re doing.  We have the power because WE have the money and without us, they&#039;re all broke and homeless.

Believe.

-Rob]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with this post 100%.</p>
<p>I game on both PC and console and have been a gamer since the very early 80&#8217;s when I found an intellivision under the Christmas tree and fell in love with video games.  Back then there was no such thing as DLC. Through the 90&#8217;s and in to the new millennium, it didn&#8217;t exist either.</p>
<p>Only with the &#8220;next gen&#8221; consoles did this begin. Companies started pushing out DLC for free, to test the waters and people were ok with it.  Then they tried it at low prices and people complained but they still paid.  Then they raised the prices and people complained a little more but they still paid.</p>
<p>They are using a psychological tactic.  Introduce the changes slowly so the people don&#8217;t flip out.  Make it seem like very little is changing by making the change gradual and in small increments.  Does anyone think these guys haven&#8217;t spent MILLIONS doing research, having studies done, running surveys and talking to experts in marketing strategies? Of course they have.  We are paying for them to make war against our bank accounts and they will continue to do this until we tell them NO.</p>
<p>Tell your friends.  Tell your enemies.  Tell your family.  Talk to people at the game store about this.  Tell every gamer you know or meet that it is time to stop this crap from happening to us.</p>
<p>Once again I GUARANTEE that the first time a big title bombs on launch because the gamers refuse to be swindled, the industry will slam on the breaks, back up and take a long hard look at what they&#8217;re doing.  We have the power because WE have the money and without us, they&#8217;re all broke and homeless.</p>
<p>Believe.</p>
<p>-Rob</p>
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		<title>By: datdude</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[datdude]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 16:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, if you&#039;re dumb enough to pay for such crap, you deserve to be fleeced.  I didn&#039;t purchase MW3 precisely because I didn&#039;t like the concept of Elite.  They are pushing it and most gamers are too dumb to realize where this is going.  Wake up.  Personally I prefer great single player games like Mass Effect series, Bioshock, Uncharted series, etc.  While I occasionally dabble in multiplayer, the concept seems pretty stupid overall.  In order to get access to the best weapons and gear, you have to devote a significant amount of time.  If you don&#039;t play all the time, you won&#039;t be very good.  Who has the time to devote to leveling up all day?  I&#039;ll tell you who.  Losers.  Give me a great single player experience I can sit down with at my leisure and enjoy.  Don&#039;t give me some glitch filled mess with intolerable bores online who seem to think your death in multiplayer means they somehow &quot;won&quot; something.  And now you want me to pay 50 bucks for your game which you can&#039;t seem to make free from cheaters and glitchers?  FU.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if you&#8217;re dumb enough to pay for such crap, you deserve to be fleeced.  I didn&#8217;t purchase MW3 precisely because I didn&#8217;t like the concept of Elite.  They are pushing it and most gamers are too dumb to realize where this is going.  Wake up.  Personally I prefer great single player games like Mass Effect series, Bioshock, Uncharted series, etc.  While I occasionally dabble in multiplayer, the concept seems pretty stupid overall.  In order to get access to the best weapons and gear, you have to devote a significant amount of time.  If you don&#8217;t play all the time, you won&#8217;t be very good.  Who has the time to devote to leveling up all day?  I&#8217;ll tell you who.  Losers.  Give me a great single player experience I can sit down with at my leisure and enjoy.  Don&#8217;t give me some glitch filled mess with intolerable bores online who seem to think your death in multiplayer means they somehow &#8220;won&#8221; something.  And now you want me to pay 50 bucks for your game which you can&#8217;t seem to make free from cheaters and glitchers?  FU.</p>
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		<title>By: FleshEatingZipper</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FleshEatingZipper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 16:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes but, as I said above : if this subscription model happens, those other countries will have to pay even more than they already do.  They will get the screws put to them as well.

This is NOT an &quot;American Gamer&quot; problem, this is in &quot;ALL GAMERS&quot; problem.  Rather than people try to turn it into a nationalistic debate, let&#039;s focus on the issue at hand.  They want to charge us ALL more for the games we want to play and we, as GAMERS, have to say &quot;HELL NO&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes but, as I said above : if this subscription model happens, those other countries will have to pay even more than they already do.  They will get the screws put to them as well.</p>
<p>This is NOT an &#8220;American Gamer&#8221; problem, this is in &#8220;ALL GAMERS&#8221; problem.  Rather than people try to turn it into a nationalistic debate, let&#8217;s focus on the issue at hand.  They want to charge us ALL more for the games we want to play and we, as GAMERS, have to say &#8220;HELL NO&#8221;.</p>
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